Forum Übersicht - RE: Darling William oder... wieviel Geduld brauche ich für den Liebsten ? - 11

09.09.2008

ich habe lange überlegt, ob ich meinem Darling nochmals schreiben soll. Einerseits gingen mir die Ideen aus, aber andererseits möchte ich wissen, wie weit er geht... Da ich ihm in meinem letzten Brief klipp und klar geschrieben hatte, er sei ein Betrüger, mußte ich nun erst mal wieder versuchen, sein Interesse zu wecken. Mal sehen, ob er in Zukunft darauf erneut eingeht.

Von: XXXXXXX@xxxxx.de
An: williamXXXXX@xxxxx.com
Betreff: Dear William
Gesendet: Di 09.09.08 23:10

Hello William

how are you doing today, hope you are in good health. Thank you for your last mail. I need time to think about you, cause I'm so confused and i don't know what i shall believe and what not. Still you are in my mind, all the time am thinking, what shall i do. But my heart belongs to you, it seemed, i can't live without you. Some days ago i got a letter from Africa, my heart was going very fast, but this letter came from a Law office, it look for me already quite a while and asked whether I a certain man with name …. know. This man was my first friend when i was a 15 year old girl. I left home with 16 and he wrote a lot of letters , later he stopped writing me. Ok , i was very young and time goes on. The lawyer wrote, if I can prove that I know this friend, inherited I his fortune, because he does not have descendants. He died with a car accident in Africa. Fortunately I waived his letters, sent these now to this lawyer. Now I must be waiting whether the attorney again announce myself. No notion which I of the matter to think is. Likewise I did not know that this friend in Africa lived, the contact had broken off. It's not easy for me to do all these in english, you know, my language is not very good.
William , please tell me the true, who are you? Give me something that ensures me that i can really trust you.If you really love me, do something for our love. Send me another Picture, cause i like to see if you are the same man. I like to know to whom i lost my heart. All the same who you are, but I would like to know, how the man looks, to who my heart belongs . I hope, you didn't find an other woman by Friendscout24, but if it happened, please tell me. da hatte ich seine IM noch nicht gelesen, wußte also nicht, dass er sich angeblich abgemeldet hat. Then it doesn't make a sence to wait longer for you. I signed out by FS24. Take care to you!
Looking forward to hearing from you
XXXX

10.09.2008

Gestern fand ich eine neue Nachricht im IM vor....

william (10.09.2008 12:49:43): i Just want to let you know that i love you so mich with all my heart now everything is okay with me i have cleared the stuff am planing to come to you my love

na schau'n wir mal.... ich gab eine kurze Rückmeldung....

XXXXXXXX (10.09.2008 18:31:43): i am speakless.... cannot believe.... I am waiting for you


da morgen das Wochenende beginnt, habe ich ein wenig Zeit ihm eine liebe Mail zu schreiben

Da bin ich gespannt wie ein Flitzebogen....wie geht die Geschichte weiter????

ich werde endlich reich!!!!!!!!

11.09.2008

Noch eine Anmerkung:

Nachdem ich meinem William die Mail geschickt hatte, erhielt ich am nächsten Tag eine, ich denke 419er mail. Die Mail an sich ist für mich nicht so wichtig... ABER.. sie wurde an meine e'mail Adresse geschickt, die ich NUR für William benutze. Es sieht so aus, als ob er nicht nur ein Lover ist, oder aber mit anderen Mugus zusammen arbeitet.

Kennt jemand diesen Absender?

Von: Ms. Linda Tsatsu
An: XXXXXXXX@xxxxxx.de
Betreff: Your response is in deed very important and confidential ok?
Gesendet: Mi 10.09.08 12:46

Ich weiß auch nicht ob ich Linda antworten soll, da ich dabei sicher so meine Probleme hätte. Aber ein bisschen neugierig bin ich schon, wüßte gerne, in wie weit William darin involviert ist.

@Schnuckel: Ich kann deine Neugierde nur zu gut vertstehen!

Hallo Schnuckel,

der angebliche William arbeitet ganz sicher nicht alleine.
Um mich klein zu kriegen, haben sich etliche Männer eingeschaltet mit Telefonaten und mails. Ich habe schon anfangs mit einigen Männern telefoniert, die angeblich bei der Bank angestellt waren. Aber ganz schlimm wurde es, als ich kein Geld mehr schickte.

Liebe Grüße
Gerti

15.09.2008

Habe nach langer Zeit mal wieder mit William gechattet. Der Chat dauerte von ca. 19:00Uhr bis 22:45 Uhr. Habe versucht zu straffen, aber es bleibt ein langer Chat.... sorry

william (15.09.2008 19:06:49): Oh my God
XXXX : o my God? good evening William
william: How are you doing today my Sweetheart
XXXX: am doing good, how are you?
william: am doing great my love have you found someone alse
XXXX: am surprised to read you here
XXXX: someone else? what do you mean, please
william: The same here..darling tell me what are you doing online by this time
XXXX: be online since few minutes, like to look into my Message box and was reading the news
XXXX: the news in www
william: Alright my love i know that you have Ignore me
XXXX: i don't ignore you, would i write mails to you if i ignore you?
william: Darling you stop calling me you stop sending me sms
william: why
XXXX: to call you... i can't understand by the bad connection, send sms, what shall i send ...
XXXX:to say, i love you<--- i told in my mails
william: i Understand you my Sweetheart
XXXX: and by the last chat... you closed the chat, so i thought, you won't chat again
william: but you always online and you don't want to sms me
XXXX: Darling , sometimes i have to work ... for my work, and sometimes i was chatting with my girlfriend, and sometimes my son is working with my computer
XXXX: but last days, i was waiting for you, but you are not there, not in that time i was online
william: Okay but you need to sms me i will meet you than
XXXX: you are there, now
XXXX: why can#t you give me a time and i try to come online
william: Yes Sweetheart am crying always because you are thinking so much bad about me my love
william: what have i done wrong
XXXX: Darling, i don't know what to think about you, you only talk about money, it was'nt nice,
XXXX: I try to help as much it was possible, but you didn't stop to talk about money
william: Sweetheart i promise you that i will never talk about money again
XXXX: okay
XXXX: you wrote, you cleared your stuff, i hope , now all is okay for you
william: How is everything with you my love..
william: Yes Darling but am waiting for my money so that i will come to you in Germany
XXXX: i feel tired by the much work , i need holidays, but i can't go , cause my college is in holiday now
XXXX: i can't wait to see you
XXXX: is MXXX still in the hospital, how is he feeling?
william: The same here my Sweetheart...
william: Nope he's here with me
william: he says how are you doing today
XXXX: thats good , tell him , i was thinking very often about hin
william: Okay Sweetheart...i love you so much
XXXX: so do i
william: am very happy to chat with you today my love..
XXXX: the same here, i feel really happy
william: But Darling i want to tell you sometthing
XXXX: yes
william: do you think that it will work out between us
XXXX: should i do ?
william: But all your family's hate me very much
XXXX: they don't hate you, no , but they take care about me
william: all your family's and all your friends?
XXXX: they know, i've not such a lot of money, and it is not easy for me, if it is lost
XXXX: Darling, all my friends don't earn a lot, and most of them aren't living alone, they need there money by themselves
william: Okay...because of money you stated calling me names...right that you don't know if i am the person in the picture
XXXX: my family don't know you and the contact isn't very close, everybody has to live for his own
william: i Understand you my Sweetheart...
XXXX: yes, the pics, still am waiting for another one, there is only one you send
william: Alright my love how many of my picture you have and Mxxx
XXXX: and how can i know, you are the person on this pic
XXXX: only that one you sent by your first mail, some month ago, more than five month ago
william: How can you know what do you mean about that....
william: Okay i have one picture for you so that you will believe me But maybe when i come to you you will have it..
XXXX: my answer to .... right that you don't know if i am the person in the picture
william: Because you really hate me with all your heart you don't even think about me
XXXX: why are you talking in this way now? Why?
XXXX: if i hate you, i wuold cancel this messanger
william: You hurt me very deep always when am sending you email am start crying why...
william: i almost even lost my only child because of money
XXXX: William... i know your problems, i try to give you help , why didn't you answer Prof Mausbär. I have no money, i told you , i am working very hard , what should i do
william: i sell everything i have in this world to save this Boy life because i can't live without him
XXXX: and you never gave an answer if i ask you, what are you doing to get money
william: when Mxxx is in the Hospital i sell all my everything to help him out
william: i told you Start from the beginning that when you help me cleared my stuff i will send you 30.000euros
william: i Swear to God i will do that and i will come to you too in Germany
XXXX: Darling , i can start a new work when money is there , not when it isn't there. In Ger a woman with my age dont find a new work, it's very hard to find
william: i promise to help you so that you will help your family's as well..
william: Now am waiting for my money 200.000euros
william: Darling when i get this money i will help you so that you will start a new Business because you have done alot for me i Thank you so much for that
XXXX: your welcome
william: Nope what i am now when i get this money i am rich man right
XXXX: i don't know if someone in USA is rich with 200 000 E, but money doesn't mean anything to me
william: You have done so much for me and you will always be in my heart..
william: Yes i know that my love...
william: how do you knew that am in fs..
XXXX: smile* i was thinking about FS just now
XXXX: you didn't send mails
XXXX: you feel disappointed
william: How do you know that am still in fs
XXXX: you were thinking i don't love you anymore
william: how do you know that ?
XXXX: so i was looking if you are looking for another one
william: You still in fs
william: You register fs
XXXX: no , i am not, but i can feel were you are, my feelings to you are very deep
william: please be honest with me how do you know that i have post my picture in fs
XXXX: i signed in FS, i was looking if you are there, and i am right. It hurts a lot
XXXX: but now, i signed out
william: Alright...You have hurtled me so much because of people are confusing you
william: Agathe.and etc
william: True love is just like rain; it touches us all
XXXX: what do you like to say me with this words
21:03:43 hier war er plötzlich Schluss... es waren 2 Stunden vergangen
Nach kurzer Zeit war William wieder online
XXXX21:09:13: what happened
william: sorry got booted
william: how many job are you working now my love
XXXX: for three
XXXX: it's not so hard for the body, but it needs time and there is no time for get rest, sometimes i am very tired
william: i understand you my love very soon everything will be over ok
william: whats are the names of the job my love
XXXX: i clean rooms in a office in the evening, and i ähh... trage Zeitungen aus
XXXX: it's not hard to work, and i get the money cash for this work
XXXX: but i wrote about them in a mail, , long time before
william: How much did you get every month?
XXXX: it isn't important, why do you ask for this?
william: Ooh Just asking my love
william: Can you sms me tomorrow when you come online
XXXX: Darling , why can we say a time and i will be online
william: so why you don't want to sms me again
XXXX: when i sent sms in the past, mostly you are not going online, and it is very expensive to send sms to Africa
XXXX: what is the problem to make a time?
william: Okay Darling when you sms me i will be online for you ok
XXXX: Darling , what is the problem, tell me please
william: Darling i will be very happy if you will sms tomorrow when you come online ok
XXXX: and i will be very happy you tell me the reason i have to send sms
william: It makes me happy anytime you sms me my love
william: Ooh Just asking my love
william: Can you sms me tomorrow when you come online
XXXX: Darling , why can we say a time and i will be online
william: so why you don't want to sms me again
XXXX: when i sent sms in the past, mostly you are not going online, and it is very expensive to send sms to Africa
XXXX: what is the problem to make a time?
william: Okay Darling when you sms me i will be online for you ok
XXXX: Darling , what is the problem, tell me please
william: Darling i will be very happy if you will sms tomorrow when you come online ok
XXXX: and i will be very happy you tell me the reason i have to send sms
william: It makes me happy anytime you sms me my love
william: Yes anytime i see your sms on my phone it makes me happy
XXXX: and do you know what will make me happy?
XXXX: you send a new pic from Mxxx and yourself
william: Okay Sweetheart...i will send you some picture of Mark and him
william: i will take Mark so that he will take a new Picture..
william: As for me i have take one already
XXXX: then send these one, , please
william: Not now you hurtled me very much
william: i will send it but later
XXXX: later..... what is later for you?
william: Darling i need to scan it..
william: Tell me what's Scammer!!
XXXX: pardon?
XXXX: what is scammer
william: yes
XXXX: what do you mean , please
william: You called me Scammer
william: and you want me to send you my picture
william: what have i done to you that you call me names
XXXX: William, please...
XXXX: in my letter i take the name... scammer, cause it was that word i found in my dictonary
XXXX: my family sometimes is thinking, you like to scam me, caus you very often didn't answer my questions
william: You said that i am Scammer right am asking you what's scammer
XXXX: and i like to have an other picture from you, cause i know you since 5 month
XXXX: and i have only one pic from you. My familie
XXXX: says, thats not normal
XXXX: its the word i found in my dictonary for Betrug
william: You hurtled me very much...please can we chat tomorrow because am crying now i can't type again
XXXX: yes okay, if you want, but think about... sometimes you hurt me too
william: You hurtled me very Deep
XXXX: and i don't know, what is you Zusammenhang with picture and the word scammer
william: Darling Please can we chat again tomorrow sms me when you come online ok
william: You hate me because if you don't hate me you will never call me names
XXXX: William , i don't hate you , and this is something that hurts me!! I have to take care about me and my son, what ever you thinking about me, is wrong, i love you and thats the true
william: I've loved you all my life. Even before there was you there was the promise of you, and now that we've met, I'll never be the same!
XXXX: Darling, there is nothing i know about you, although i sent my money to you, why should i do this?
william: Moment i need to go toilet my love
XXXX: okay Die "Sitzung" dauerte 15 Minuten
XXXX: and for what i need a pic by someone who is scammimg me... to take it under my pillow? You must thinking i am an idiot
XXXX: No , may be I hurt you and for this i say sorry, but i feel very often very sad about you
william: ok my dear
william: do not worry at all
william: i want to pay a visit to some place
william: so can we have a chat later?
XXXX: okay Darling, will it be okay tomorrow?
XXXX: are you there?
XXXX: William... are you there?
XXXX: you say i shall not worry.... but i am worry , cause you are thinking i hate you, but this is not true
william 22:43:03: ok i do not think so okay

danach war für etliche Minuten Funkstille und dann die Mitteilung, dass sich William abgemeldet hat

Oh je, da hast Du es aber auch nicht leicht. Ein echt zäher Brocken! Wie bekommt man das nur in einem Chat in English so schnell hin?

@ Thor

hmmm... ich weiß nicht ob er zäh ist oder ein Brocken. Habe gestern wieder zwei Stunden mit ihm gechattet, muss das aber noch bearbeiten. Dazu fehlte mir heute leider die Zeit. Auf jeden Fall ist er stur und lässt sich nicht über den Tellerrand sehen.

Chat vom 17.09.2008

endlich habe ich Zeit unser Chatgespräch hier rein zu stellen. Es ging wieder über 2 Stunden, habe versucht es zu komprimieren, aber es ist schwierig, weil der Zusammenhang ja erhalten bleiben soll. William hat mir immer noch nicht verziehen, dass ich vermutete, er sei ein Betrüger.

XXXX(21:45:59): good evening William
william: Good good evening Darling how are you doing today
william: Darling i Love you so much but i think you hate me so much
william: i have one picture for you my Sweetheart
XXXX: thats fine, really
XXXX: i hate you and for this i like chatting with you?
william: Darling you mean you hate me
XXXX: you are thinking i am a idiot
william: Darling you see you send me sms and i meet you online
william: i really love you so much with all my heart and soul...
XXXX: yes, i am very happy to meet you
william: The same here i want to show you how much i love you my love
XXXX: are you thinking, i would chatting with you if i would hate you
william: Darling i think you hate me too because all your family's hate me very much
XXXX: my Sweatheart... in that special mail i wrote
XXXX: if you are a scammer.... although i don't hate you.
XXXX: and please... don't say always, i do
william: Darling you called me again a scammer
XXXX: who could i say it that you can understand witch mail i meam
XXXX: *how could...
william: i can't live without you XXXX But you are thinking so much bad about me maybe you found another person
XXXX: never i would write with a scammer
william: Alright my Sweetheart....i give you all my heart and my soul you trying to break it why
william: what have i done wrong my love
XXXX: don't you understand, or won't you understand me...... I don't hate you !!!!
william: Oh my god am crying here why
XXXX: how much have i to say........ i don't hate you
william: Darling all your family's hate me so much
XXXX: i am not living with my family
XXXX: how is everything with you.... and with Mxxx
william: Darling Mxxx is always crying that he want to come to you my love
XXXX: does Mxxx also come to Germany?
william: Yes Darling he will comewith me my
XXXX: that's great

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es folgten in deutsch geschriebene Liebessprüche und Weisheiten von Willi und ein Gespräch über meinen Ex.

william: Darling am trying to send you some picture of me with Mxxx es gab zwei einzelne Bilder

XXXX: yes , it would make me very happy
william: Okay my Sweetheart...i will always makes you happy my love
william: Please don't live me my love
XXXX: you don't trust me?
william: i Trust you my love but you don't trust me as well..
william: you can check your email now
XXXX: will look after chatting, then there is something i have to smile and with this smile i like to sleep
william: Really..
XXXX: really
XXXX: do you have a headset there? das war ein Fehler! Nun habe ich ihn wieder auf das Thema telefonieren gebracht
william: Nope my Laptop is old Version
XXXX: hmmm, thought, we could phone by yahoo, by chatting
william: if you like after chatting with you? you can call me just for 3mins
XXXX: Darling , you know, the connection is very bad
william: Darling i think it's very good now my love
william: whats your number again
XXXX: its still the same
william: whats your number my love
XXXX: you lost my number, o... o...
william: Nope but you sms me i got it..
XXXX: you like to control me diesen Satz fand er nicht witzig, obwohl ich ein hinzu fügte
william: am trying to call you but it's not going throught i want to make sure if the number is corret my love
william: why do you say that my love
william: But your Ex is always calling you right
XXXX: no , there is not such a lot contact, we meet 3 or 4 times a year
XXXX: my Ex has a friend
william: Alright Darling whats your first number
XXXX: i didn't change it, it's still the same bitte Themawechsel
XXXX: how often do you think about your wife?
william: You are my wife i think about you always my Sweetheart
william: i don't have any other person in my life only you...lach mich weg
william: But your trying to break my heart
XXXX: Darling, ich will dein Herz nicht brechen, warum denkst du das ständig?
XXXX: i won't an other one, my heart belongs to you
william: Darling you can print this picture i sent to you ok
XXXX: yea, Dear, i will look to them before i have to sleep
william: Darling please can you check it now and give me the answer ok warum diese Eile?? Was soll das?
XXXX: okay, but it may happen , i get out, my computer makes me problems last time. If it happens, i sign in few minutes later, okay?
william: Okay my Sweetheart am waiting ok
XXXX: ok, a moment please im Messi abgemeldet... einloggen ins E'mail-Center...
william: ok
und im Messi wieder angemeldet
XXXX: your son looks like you
william: Yes Darling hope you like the picture as well..
XXXX: yes , i do , i feel very happy you send them to me
william: Okay Darling Hope you Believe me now
william: Or you still thinking Bad about me..
XXXX: Darling... please, i love you... and about the problem , you are thinking i hate you , we should talk about it if you are here in Ger
XXXX: if i hate you... i wouldn't chat with you, you can believe
william: i Take this Picture so that you will believe me hope everything is okay now..
XXXX: yes , all is okay
william: Because you are thinking that am not the person in the picture so ist es ja wohl auch
XXXX: i said.... i am not sure, cause i have had only one picture
william: i don't know why you can think something like this for me.. du armes Hascherl, immer diese Ungerechtigkeiten
XXXX: and you won't send me another one
XXXX: please, don't start with this again
william: I Take this picture here in the hotel gerding
william: Darling please can you call me now because am feeling sleeping my love i want to sleep ok
william: Hope you will sleep well today
XXXX: will try it...
XXXX: yes , its time to sleep, its nearly midnight
william: Okay Sweetheart i will let you sleep ok
XXXX: very kind Darling
william: i Love you so much
XXXX: i love you too, with all my heart
XXXX: okay Darling, let stop now, hope to chat with you again
william: I win...you my love..
XXXX: okay, you win , it will be okay
william: Okay Sweetheart am waiting for your call ok
william: i love you so much bye for now:-*
XXXX: will try it, hope i come through
XXXX(23:40:52): sleep well my Dear

Ich habe natürlich nicht angerufen, die Verbindung war leider nicht möglich
Frage:kann Willi sich mein Passwort aneignen, wenn ich mich in meinem E'mail-Center einlogge? Mich machte es stutzig, dass er darauf drängelte, nach seiner Mail, bzw. seinen Bildern zu schauen. Außerdem hat er danach versucht Dateien zu versenden, hat es aber abgebrochen. Konnte so schnell nicht erkennen, was das für Dateien waren, Passwort abends und am nächsten Tag nochmals geändert Paranoia lässt grüßen
Das Bild von William ist bereits vorhanden, er hat es auch Agathe geschickt, das Bild von seinem Sohn ist ein Neues, kommt aus dem Katalog, das die meisten Scammer benutzen.

20.09.2008

Zwei Tage nicht mit Darling gechattet. Mittags erhielt ich eine Mail von ihm....

Von: William Bright
An: XXXXXXX@xxxxxx.de
Betreff: Hi XXXX
Gesendet: Sa 20.09.08 12:47

Good Morning XXXX
How are you doing today i Hope everything is okay with you am so happy to hear from you once again and am enjoy reading your mail as well...i think now you have what you want so your not coming online again...and know email...i told you before that you really Hate me...i Love you so much with all my heart...maybe this will be my last mail...Take care

William

Was ist nun wieder los?

20.09.2008

Nun heißt es den angeknacksten William wieder aufmuntern. Also ne neue Liebesmail an ihn ...

Von: XXXXXX@xxxxx.de
An: williamxxxx@xxxxxxx.com
Betreff: may be this will be....
Gesendet: Sa 20.09.08 19:49

Dear William

hope you are well, although Mxxx. Your mail today is still going through my head. Why are you thinking i hate you? Why? What is the reason you are thinking in this way? I have what i want? What are you meaning? The last mail i sent was on 9th and 14th of September.You read them today? It's past, cause i was chatting after this time with you.Or is the problem i didn't chatting again last days? William , i am working a lot, sometimes i feel so tired. I need some holidays, but it isn't possible, to much to do. It hearts a lot you are thinking i hate you, but i don't. You would like it? You like to let me go? You like another woman? For this i can't do anything. I don't know if you are still in FS24, i canceled FS, never i will go back, cause if i would see you there again... i will not feel this pain in my heart again.
You sent the picture i asked for and i was very happy. I am deep in your debt, because I injured you very much, but it happened and I cannot cancel it. I can say.... sorry, please forgive me if you can. I was wrong and i hurt you a lot, i know this. But it happened. Do you know what i was feeling if i saw your picture in FS? My heart was standing still for a moment and all i could do was crying. And your mail today let me cry too. Think about it.... do you really love me or do you want to go? If you want to let me go, please, then send a short message to my Y-messanger, cause it may be better to cancel this messanger. I felt so happy to met you again, but now my heart is broken. Never i let you out from my heart, if you are liking me or not. I love you, knowing, you don't believe me. It seems, i can write it for the last time to you.......I LOVE YOU.
Take care to you and Mxxx, God bless you!
XXXX

In Antwort auf:

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Frage:kann Willi sich mein Passwort aneignen, wenn ich mich in meinem E'mail-Center einlogge? Mich machte es stutzig, dass er darauf drängelte, nach seiner Mail, bzw. seinen Bildern zu schauen. Außerdem hat er danach versucht Dateien zu versenden, hat es aber abgebrochen. Konnte so schnell nicht erkennen, was das für Dateien waren, Passwort abends und am nächsten Tag nochmals geändert Paranoia lässt grüßen

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Chat 20./21.09.2008

hatte Willi per SMS informiert dass ich online bin. Wollte sehen, ob er den Kontakt aufrechterhalten will. Er kam, wenn auch sehr spät

william(23:17:25): I Love you so much my Darling
XXXX: goodf evening William
william: Good Evening XXXXhow are you doing today
XXXX: i am well, and i did good
william: Okay how is everything with you
XXXX: i am sad about your mail and am astonished to see you here
william: Oh Darling i think you don't Love me anything anymore
william: Darling i think you don't know how much i love you with all my heart
william: i can't live without you baby..
XXXX: and why are you thinking i don't love you anymore?
william: Because Darling you are always sending me email Good Morning but now nothing my love
XXXX: why shall i send email if you don't read them?
XXXX: the time i sent email in the morning is long time ago
XXXX: Dear, you wrote today... you read my mail and i get what i got, but i sent the last mail at the 14th of September
william: Darling i Swear to God that i love only you my Sweetheart
william: i can't live without you XXXX
william: am crying here as am typing this
XXXX: you are lieing now
william: Nope Darling m crying here
william: am
william: Darling i love only you ...
XXXX: what did you mean by your last mail... i get what i got
XXXX: yes , your tréars in your eyes are coming cause you are laughing about me
XXXX: *tears
william: Darling please forgive me am very sorry
william: Oh darling why are you talking like that? your eyes are coming cause you are laughing about me
william: Darling please forgive me i don't mean to send you that email it because of i don't hear from you
william: and you don't call me too
william: You need to understand me for not hearing from you even one day my love
XXXX: Dear, sometimes i am very tired, chatting is not easy for me, cause about my english. It needs a lot of concentration for me , and sometimes i'm too tired for this
william: Darling you can speak Germany and i will translate my love
william: please anything i done to you forgive me ok
XXXX: will think about it
XXXX: i will forgive, if you never say again, i hate you
william: Darling i will never say it again
william: i promise you my love
william: Please darling forgive me with all your heart ok
XXXX: can you forgive me? i was wrong in my thinking, but i feel since that time a lot of pain
william: darling The flame never dies because the commmitment never ends.
william: Darling i have forgevn you already my love
XXXX: we will wait for it *smile
william: I'm talking about fate here - when feelings are so powerful it's as if some force beyond your control is guiding you to someone who can make you happy beyond your wildest dreams.
XXXX: okay, you still like to come to Ger?
william: Yes Darling...
XXXX: than we should talk about hate, that it has an end to talk about
XXXX: you can understand what i mean?
william: i really do understand everything that you mean honey...but you really need to trust me...i really need to be with you
william: i have been trying to put things in place so i could fly straight to you as well my love
XXXX: but why didn't you send another picture , so often i ask for them
william: honey...i have been soo busy trying to get things done so i could come to you as well dear
william: i have finished with business here honey and what is left is for them to pay me so i could fly to you as fast as possible my dear
william: but they siad they would do that in a draft form since the amount that they would need to pay me is very huge honey..
william: so for now i was hoping if you could recieve the draft for me and then cash the money before i come back home as well
XXXX: sorry, i need a moment to understand what you mean
Hier nahm das Gespräch eine Wende, mit der ich erst gar nicht klar kam. Bei mir schrillten ein Dutzend Alarmglocken
william: what i mean is that...am done with my business honey ,,,but they said since the money is a huge amount..they would need to pay me in a draft form
william: so for now i would love it if you could receive the draft for me..cause i would want them to send it to you as well my love and then cash the money before i come back home
XXXX: please, write in German
XXXX: you like to send the draft to me?
william: yes my love
XXXX): and i shall send the money back to you? I can not understand this
william: no honey..you will not send the money bnac
william: back here
william: you know i will be flying to you so we could spend our life together my life...so all that you would have to do is to keep the money and pay some bills and what i do owe you as well till am back home ok
XXXX: what for bills shall i pay?
william: i mean your bills as well honey,..i also do know i do owe you alot as well ..so you could take some of the money to pay everything that you owe before am home..cause you know you are my wife and everything that i have is also yours as well my love
XXXX: thats very kind , but it can wait till you are here
william: am sm
william: am smiling
william: but thats ok honey..everything that i do owe is yours and really do trust you that is why am making them send you this huge sums of money as well
william: but for now they said they would need your fax number and also your cell number as well..cause they would give you a call when they are about to process the draft honey
XXXX: i have no fax at home, i will look , if it is possible by my work, there is a second fax, but i don't know the number, I've to look for the number on Monday
XXXX: and my cell number you know
XXXX: they can emailing me
XXXX(00:18:02): are you there?

das Gespräch brach hier ab, wahrscheinlich war seine Chatzeit abgelaufen. Ich hinterließ ihm auf dem Messi noch eine kurze Nachricht und verschwand ebenfalls, weil ich mich nicht auf ein weiteres Gespräch wegen Fax usw. einlassen wollte. Heute Abend geht es wahrscheinlich weiter.

21.09.2008

Nun brauche ich Rat, bzw. Hilfe.

Er will mir über 200.000 € schicken. Davon darf/kann ich mir Geld nehmen um meine Unkosten zu bezahlen. Mal davon abgesehen, ob der Wechsel überhaupt gedeckt ist... das läuft doch auf Geldwäscherei hinaus. Ich soll von dem Geld sicher auch noch andere Dinge bezahlen, wer weiß was da noch kommt. Fax habe ich nicht zu Hause, Handy-Nummer hat er, wenngleich ich das Handy nie angeschaltet habe. Er soll mir mailen (<---- siehe Chatgespräch). Aber was mach ich, wenn er mich fragt, wohin das Geld versendet werden soll? Ich möchte gerne darauf vorbereitet sein.
William ist nicht nur ein Romance-Scammer, ich glaube inzwischen, er ist mit allen Wassern gewaschen und nicht zu unterschätzen!
Noch eine Anmerkung von mir: ich bin der Überzeugung, dass ich inzwischen mit 2 Willis zu tun habe. Vielleicht nicht für alle erkennbar, aber die Gespräche verändern sich. Es gibt Wörter, die Willi Nr1 nie verwendet hat, bzw, es gibt Wörter, die Willi Nr1 ständig verwendet hat. Es mag aus dem hier gepostetem nicht erkennbar sein, aber ich merke es schon seit einiger Zeit.

Zitat von Schnuckel

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Er will mir über 200.000 € schicken.

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ja genau, sage ihm ein so grosser Betrag auf deinem Konto würde sofort die staatliche Überwachung wegen Money Laundering in Aktion versetzen, deshalb nimmst du das Geld nur per WU entgegen.
Dreh den Spiess einfach um und benutze deren Techniken.

ja, die Idee ist gut. Nur er schreibt, das seine Ware mit Wechsel bezahlt wird. Die kann man doch nicht zu WU bringen, oder doch? Deshalb will er die Wechsel ja auch zu mir schicken. Na mal sehen , wie ich mich da raus winde, gegebenfalls sag ich, ich werde mich erkundigen was zu tun ist. Das kann ja lustig werden

Einfach behaupten, dass Wechsel in Deutschland verboten sind, nur bares ist wahres.